Where did I plant that money tree...

Ok...
The post in my last thread got me wondering if I should consider this project. Restoring a 1969 GS400 Convertable Stage 1. having NEVER done a real restoration I am not sure even if i am capable or if the car is restorable.
only 212 of these cars were created so I took another different look at the car. Can you guys help me a bit on whats gonna work and whats not?
Of course EVERY old car comes with a story and here is this ones:
Car was involved in a robbery / shootout in 1973 resulting in death of driver (shotgun pellets superficial wounds to the door & shattered drivers side windows) NO seats whatever not even frames or rails, door panels and some misc interior parts are in trunk and in fairly good shape hood and trunk lid work great and are cosmetically good no dings hinges in great shape keys all in car and work. it rolls, appears to have all body parts and suprisingly little rust and damage overall. car was i found out inside for many years Convertable top WORKS! latches are in tact and even the back glass is undamaged. of course there is no material and this makes it look bad at first glance. no grille, headlights or anything in the nose of this car I did see the headlight benzels in the trunk. Car is currently in my shop ( sitting beside the 61 manx Dunebuggy ) good intentions.... small budget.
back to the buick...
Motor is in car minus carberator has the stage1 stickers on valve covers and stage1 hood emblems in place. No transmission or driveshaft.
has air conditioning and looks like most engine carpartment components..
Dash pad good, dash fair, instument gages are all there, steering wheel ok, maybe everything interior but no seats. I will check VIN numbers this week for verification if someone here can help? and I will also take pictures while at it anything in particular i should photgraph that would be helpful? car is white and looks like original paint. anything else important to look at?
 
that sounds like a great start to yer project, Keep a eye out on ebay, amazing how many things ya need will pop up there:hurray:
 
Where Did I Plant That Money Tree

AS A FELLOW VERY AMATURE RESTORER,I HAVE A 78 CENTURY WGN THAT I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF A FRAME OFF REBUILD,DON'T BE SCARED. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A LOT OF INDOOR SPACE AND TIME, AND START SLOWLY,CATALOG WHAT YOU NEED AND TAKE LOTS OF CLEAR PICTURES BEFORE YOU TAKE ANYTHING APART. IT WILL TAKE A LONG WHILE TO REASSEMBLE AND ITS AMAZING HOW MUCH YOU FORGET. THEN START WITH A DOOR OR FENDER AND FIX THAT AND MOVE TO THE NEXT PART.EVERY BODY HAS A DIFFERENT APPROACH, I AM WAITING UNTILL THE BODY IS DONE BEFORE I START THE DRIVTRAIN BUT SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO DO IT OTHER WAYS. JUST JUMP IN AND START LEARNING-- THERE PROBABLY ISN'T A BETTER WAY TO BOND WITH A TEENAGER AND KEEP HIM OUT OF TROUBLE THAN TO DO A CAR PROJECT AND GO SEARCHING TOGETHER FOR PARTS. PLUS YOU COULD RECRUIT HIS FREINDS FOR HELP IN THE GARAGE--KEEPS MORE KIDS OFF THE STREET AND INTRODUCE MORE YOUNG PEOPLE TO THE HOBBY---IF YOU TAKE THAT ATTITUDE THE TIME ALONE IS WORTH ANYTHING IT COSTS--:thumbsup:
 
Restoring a 1969 GS400 Convertable Stage 1.

wow, what a find! the first year for the Stage option and a convertible to boot. 1 of 212 vert Stages built this year...

Motor is in car minus carberator has the stage1 stickers on valve covers and stage1 hood emblems in place. No transmission or driveshaft.

the driveshaft is meaningless, the correct code Stage carb can be gotten if you're willing to wait ... but that missing trans is a killer for any hopes of a "numbers matching" resto. i believe a portion of the VIN is stamped on the correct trans.

otoh, this is a great opportunity to upgrade to a 200r4 or Tremec. such a move may not hurt the resale value at all.

are you doing this to flip or for personal satisfaction? having a car professionally resto'd can easily run over $50,000. obviously, if you're going to do the majority of work yourself it will come in quite a bit cheaper but you should still be expecting to spend in the 10s of thousands to have a 'decent' resto.

I will check VIN numbers this week for verification if someone here can help?

verify what?

color, top and trim will be on the trim tag on the firewall.
 
pic!

notice last tagged 73!
has 70K on speedo
no rust through some surface rust
What you guys think? is it worth it?
:confused: ran out of time to drop the tank ...
someone mentioned a paper in the drivers side post? how do you get in there?
 
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reality check

no way I can spend the 50k + to do this right
we already have a 70 gs455
should i sell it? part it? or just sit on it and hope to win a lottery?

as you can see it has a longgggggggggg way to go before its anything close to presentable.....
 
Buick pictures always look good in the "Team Buick Showroom". Click on the link in the upper right of the page:confused:
 
446679H191592
4 = Buick
46 = GS 455
67 = 2dr convertible
9 = 1969
H = Flint, MI
191592 = sequential production #

can't give you any more unless you find the trim tag and/or build sheet. i've heard it's not unusual to find the build sheet over the gas tank or under the rear seat. :confused:

1969 isn't one of the years that the Sloan museum has documentation on so you're stuck with whatever you can get from the DMV or prior owners...
 
no way I can spend the 50k + to do this right

where are you at? maybe we can locate a good Buick shop near you and you can get a better idea of exactly what it's going to take.

it MIGHT be worthwhile taking out a loan to have the car fixed and then auctioning it ... kind of a VERY long term 'house flip'.

but before you start something like that you need to research VERY CAREFULLY, what these cars are selling for and how much you're likely to get stuck for. and that's going to require a professional body shop and engine man.

check ebay, Hemmings and Barrett-Jackson for prices on these cars. keep in mind that Chevy equivalents tend to go for 20-30% more than a Buick just because people tend not to pay much attention to Buick.

we already have a 70 gs455 should i sell it? part it?

if you have no interest in keeping it i would hope that what remains of the car could be kept together...

or just sit on it and hope to win a lottery?

can you store it were it won't take any moisture damage?
 
no way I can spend the 50k + to do this right

where are you at? maybe we can locate a good Buick shop near you and you can get a better idea of exactly what it's going to take.

Oklahoma

it MIGHT be worthwhile taking out a loan to have the car fixed and then auctioning it ... kind of a VERY long term 'house flip'.


but before you start something like that you need to research VERY CAREFULLY, what these cars are selling for and how much you're likely to get stuck for. and that's going to require a professional body shop and engine man.

That would be why i am here I have read a lot of post and know experts are here!

check ebay, Hemmings and Barrett-Jackson for prices on these cars. keep in mind that Chevy equivalents tend to go for 20-30% more than a Buick just because people tend not to pay much attention to Buick.

Most of my hesitation is that it is a project that the only tie I have to it is it getting dumped in my lap... not an old favorite or something i always wanted to own/drive

we already have a 70 gs455
The 70 GS is top notch shape it is a survivor with 51k that was a gift to my son it isnt going anywhere :thumbsup:

should i sell it? part it? this was a question for the 69 vert
My biggest question on it is is it worth someones time and money to restore or should i part it.
being an ameture at restore I dont know if it is a "basket case" or a gem in the rough?

if you have no interest in keeping it i would hope that what remains of the car could be kept together...

can you store it were it won't take any moisture damage?
yes i can but dont really want to if i am going to get rid of it
 
other options

It does look like alot of work and cash,if you decide not to restore,but to part out , Im interested in the hood,same color as my car.think about it..tty:confused:
 
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